Is Tobi Really Uchiha Madara or Uchiha Obito?

A fellow anime fanatic friend of mine and I are having a bet:

If Tobi is really Uchiha Madara, as is being built up in the manga, I win.

If Tobi is really the undead or resurrected Uchiha Obito (and Kakashi's eye-mate), he wins.

The price: Php 100.00 ... we're not that rich... ^_^

As proof --- and so that none of us will back out, here's a copy of our conversation:

*My friend will go by Mikee, in case he doesn't want his name known. My apologies to those who cannot understand our Filipino dialect. I think you'll be able to get the flow of the conversation, anyway.

Mikee: naa ko share sa imo! [he sends me the picture you see here, to remind me of a past argument on whether or not Tobi is Madara or Obito... he really insists that Tobi is Obito!]
ME: pusta ta bi.. [I get riled up: let's gamble on this!]
Mikee: sure
Mikee: hehhee
ME: pila?!
ME: [smiley]
Mikee: 5k?
ME: oips!
ME: sobra na! [he's gotta be kidding if we both have that much.. he sure is confident... grrr...]
ME: kung mpildi ko, la ko mabayad ingana ka dako!
ME: [smiley; I'm yakking away that I don't have that much money.]
Mikee: hahah
Mikee: lolz
ME: small lng daw uy...
ME: la pa ta savings...
Mikee: cge 100 lang
Mikee: heheh
Mikee: deal?
ME: [smiley; thumbs up!]
ME: oks ah...
ME: deal na ni ha..
Mikee: okay deal
Mikee: hahaha


... and that there's the deal. ^_^

10 comments:

Jagd_Doga said...

I really think Tobi is uchiha madara, why? Because he claimed himself to be so. Not only that, but wasn't the uchiha that gave kakashi his sharingan the cousin of Itatchi? The one that was obviously killed by Itatchi during one of the flash backs. These are my two-cents into things. It would make sense Uchiha Madara is Madara, but has Naruto been one of those anime's that make sense? It would be an interesting twist if he was actually Obito. But for the sake of a good history and excellent story output please....let him be Madara.

NytMer said...

Obito wasn't the cousin that Itachi killed back then. I don't want Tobi to be Obito, too.. I've got a hundred bucks on this! :lol:

I'm not betting on Tobi being Obito because there is an inconsistency with the plot if that happens. The manga author would have to provide a good explanation on how Obito survived with Kakashi and Ren present during his death.

Anonymous said...

Honestly I haven't seen Obito in Naruto flashback's stories, so I've searched the net for his informations and found out something very interesting about their similarities with Uchiha Madara. Take a look at this video from youtube >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjJtceW-16s&feature=related

After I saw the video, it made me think that Tobi was really Uchiha Obito. Even in their names you can see some similarities, Tobi = Obito. See? "tobi" was somewhat a rumbled word from "obito" with one "o" being omitted hehehe.

NytMer said...

Know what? Here's a new thought: Uchiha Madara, Uchiha Obito, and Tobi are one and the same person!

... although that still doesn't explain Obito's death. There're a couple of loopholes...

NytMer said...

ermonrice, I've seen the video you cited. But it still doesn't convince me that Tobi is Obito.

Anonymous said...

I believe that Uchiha Madara is not Uchiha Obito, because there wasn't an easy way to get out of the rocks he was buried under, unless he was found and healed by a more experienced medical ninja than Rin. I think, that if you go with the patten that Masashi Kishimoto has given, then Obito is a relative of Madara. I think Madara could be Obito's father because if you look at Minato, Shikamaru's dad, Chouji's dad, Ino's Dad, and if you read what Chiho(I think her name was...) said, Kakashi looks exactly like his father! This has led me to believe this.

Anonymous said...

I think this is it... lol... xD
tobi is uchiha madara in uchiha obito's body... confusing??? We know pein put madara's mind/soul into obito's body... so this are my thoughts..
That's the direction that I thought these chapters point to as well. Pein and Madara have a cooperative relationship in which Pein helps him with body transfer and Madara offers his special bloodline abilities. Bingo! And maybe they come together to solve Minato's seal.

The thing that's kinda interesting is that Madara actually evaluates the strengths of Itachi and Sasuke, which leads me to think that he is still looking for a body, looking for the better of these two than merely complimenting on another Uchiha.
It looks like he is looking for a better body, and sets his eyes on Sasuke. As to why he hasn't got to Itachi's body from all these years... I am starting to think that "hatred" is probly a necessary emotion to counter Madara's body transfer. That's why Itachi emphasizes this to Sasuke. And no residual emotion left in Obito is probly why Madara could take over his body so easily. It's just a thought, but then this would give me a reason to believe that Itachi is still responsible for killing the whole clan to prevent Madara's taking over.

thx 4 letting me post here...
xD

dondon said...

"hey guyz base of what i've read from the other comments their telling something that uchiha madara is just like urochimaro who uses a barrel and lots of my companion here in our town says that itatchi is not really the one who's responsible in killing the uchiha's,

actually i missed many of the episode but dont worry guys i will help ya all for solving and in finding out what really the whole thing happen about the history of the uchiha's, hehe ya all guys are amazing try put on your ideas and not actually sure but maybe you will get the not so exact idea of the author, goodluck guys..."

Unknown said...

itachi did kill the uchiha clan u idiot read the manga and madara is an old man and obito is the same age as kakashi so madara wouldn't of transfered body's plus the guy who made up that technique died long before madara came out of hiding in the movie "bonds" so reading the manga you would see that Danzou has a sharingan so think about that did madara give danzou a sharingan?

Unknown said...

Are you retarded?? Obito is dead he is not coming back.Tobi is Madara the founder of the Uchiha clan.People please read the manga!!